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for the long-term interests of the franchise with their new stadium plan

Publicado: 2016-05-24

for the long-term interests of the franchise with their new stadium plan

van Grant: Arlington cut Dallas out.

Kevin Sherrington: They did. But I think the key is you have a 72-year old owner. If you had a 45-year old owner, would this same thing have happened?

Grant: It's possible it would not, but you're talking about...

Barry Horn: There are not a lot of people who would walk away from the deal that Ray Davis was offered.

Sherrington: I don't blame Ray Davis for that, but it's not looking at the long-term interests of the franchise or for the fan base.

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Grant: One thing that drove me crazy in the last week is for former Arlington Mayor Richard Greene to come out and talk about how Dallas tried to steal the ballpark and how the Rangers belong to us. If the Rangers belong to Arlington, then it is the Arlington metropolitan area that has to support that club. Because the Arlington metropolitan has to support that club, it's going to be the smallest market team in the big leagues. Is that what he wants?

Sherrington: Richard Green is talking about the media writing about this stuff. He is surely smart enough to know there is nobody in City Hall trying to steal this team.

Grant: Dallas would not be trying to steal the team. This is the Metroplex's team. It is not Arlington's team. And this parochial attitude that continues to exist between this municipality and that municipality is the kind of thing that -- in my mind -- leaves the Metroplex just that much short of being an actual complete and total world-class package area.

Mark Lamster: I'll say this, if you want to look at the long-term financial viability, downtown is the place to be. If you want to talk about luxury suites, wouldn't you want to be in Dallas?

Grant: You're not attached to the business center if you are in Arlington. You can much more go to the businesses in Dallas and get them to pony up. It is an amenity for their employees and it is an amenity for their sponsors.

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Horn: Aren't the demographics, don't they show that most season ticket holders come from Dallas?

Grant: I think if you break it down into counties, they will show that the highest number of season ticket holders are from Tarrant. I think. If you break it down and you say the Dallas North Tollway, Dallas and Collin, then all of the sudden you've got a whole different issue. If you look at the population bases, Tarrant County is... the last census estimate that I looked at is about [1.9 million] for Tarrant County and Dallas and Collin are about 3 [million] plus and then you start folding in Rockwall and those kind of areas and you've got a bigger population base to draw from. I think you do get more people now all of the sudden who are willing to take mass transit and do many plans and you increase your season ticket base.

Sherrington: Tom Hicks told me once that... he said that the bulk of their season ticket holders were Collin County and North Dallas. One of the reasons he built Dr Pepper Ballpark was to service the baseball fans of that area up there. And he also said that if he had owned the team in the early 90s, he said I would have gotten the stadium built in downtown Dallas.

Grant: I applaud Tom for saying and trying to do that, but at the same time we know what it's been like working with the city of Dallas on this.

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Lamster: My point is, we put this all on Dallas and how difficult it is to deal with Dallas. Well, yeah. The citizens rightly and the political atmosphere here is rightly not super keen on giving out a giant subsidy to a billionaire ownership. Look at San Francisco, they built Pac Bell or whatever the heck it is called now. That's a fantastic stadium and you know what? It wasn't publicly funded. It was privately funded. So you know what, you want to come build downtown? Privately fund your stadium.

Grant: Obviously Pac Bell, I mean AT&T, for me is the best stadium in the major leagues. It is downtown. It is accessed by public transport. It's a small footprint of a stadium. It's got a great view and a great atmosphere. And I think it's been key in helping to make the Giants a powerhouse franchise.

Lamster: look at what the value of that franchise is now. It's enormous. Worth much, much more than when it was at Candlestick. So I think you have to look at it that way. It's not the only privately financed stadium out there. So I think there are alternatives and I think when you look at what the great recent stadiums are, I think they are all downtown.

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